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danbaron
29-09-2011, 12:30
I am now using PBCC6.

I wonder why it seems (at least to me) that the IDE never changes.

Here are three things I don't like.

1) There is zero space between the beginning of a line of code and the left edge of the window.

2) You do not have the option of displaying line numbers (at least I can't find it).

3) In the "Replace" dialog, there is no option to do the replacement only in the selected text.

I guess there must be some reason for keeping the IDE so simple, but, I would refer to it as a skeleton :skull: IDE.

zak
29-09-2011, 13:20
try SED Editor 1.16 (Public domain) here:
http://www.jose.it-berater.org/
go down the page to SED Editor 1.16 (Public domain)
i have used the sed editor for thinbasic somewhere on this forum and it is good so i think the same for powerbasic, you may need to tell the editor where is the pb compiler in the options or setting.

jcfuller
29-09-2011, 16:25
There is an update to sed -> csed for PBCC 6 and PbWin 10.

http://www.jose.it-berater.org/smfforum/index.php?topic=4153.0

J (http://www.jose.it-berater.org/smfforum/index.php?topic=4153.0)ames

danbaron
30-09-2011, 05:03
Thanks guys.

I got SED 1.16.

Maybe it is better.

I'll have to get used to it.

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It seems that John and I independently came to the same conclusion concerning the state of the IDE.

I also cannot understand the thinking at PowerBasic, which would cause users to feel forced to make their own one.

(It's hard to be the only person (actually, not the only person - Google "powerbasic", and look near the top of the search page) complaining about something, but that doesn't mean you're wrong, right?)

Dan

jcfuller
30-09-2011, 11:50
I much prefer they spend most of their time at what they do best: compiler development.
I have never used the editors ( PBCC or PBWin ) and I go back to the beginnings.
The combination of recently update Lynx and CSED works fine for me.
I also use RadAsm3 quite a lot also.
James

John Spikowski
30-09-2011, 17:42
This will be my last post here. If I can't state my opinion without having PowerBASIC (Zale) bully Eros into deleting my posts then this is a waste of my time. Everything I have posted in reference to PB is true and indisputable.

I hope Eros wises up and cuts the apron strings from PB or his users base will continue to decrease.

zak
30-09-2011, 18:05
the site: http://basic.mindteq.com/index.php/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106:powerbasic&catid=40:reviews
gives powerbasic 4.5 stars from 5 , and the overall opinions in the discussions in that page are in favour of powerbasic, someone complain from the ide but he admits the excellence of this language.
the last reviewer said "All COM based programes will not work on future Windows 8." : Eros you have tried windows 8 can you comment on this.

ErosOlmi
30-09-2011, 18:07
This will be my last post here. If I can't state my opinion without having PowerBASIC (Zale) bully Eros into deleting my posts then this is a waste of my time. Everything I have posted in reference to PB is true and indisputable.

I hope Eros wises up and cuts the apron strings from PB or his users base will continue to decrease.

No one has asked me anything.

I've not deleted any of your posts, I've just moderated (hidden) one of your post in which you didn't remain technical but you commented with personal hate.
And you do that almost every time there is "PowerBasic" inside a post. I'm pretty tired about that.

Remain technical and no one will moderate you.

ErosOlmi
30-09-2011, 18:12
the site: http://basic.mindteq.com/index.php/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106:powerbasic&catid=40:reviews
gives powerbasic 4.5 stars from 5 , and the overall opinions in the discussions in that page are in favour of powerbasic, someone complain from the ide but he admits the excellence of this language.
the last reviewer said "All COM based programes will not work on future Windows 8." : Eros you have tried windows 8 can you comment on this.

I have to say that I didn't test PowerBasic under Windows 8 but I tested thinBasic 1.8.9 (quite a bit) under Windows 8.
thinBasic 1.8.9 is working fine under Windows 8. thinBasic 1.8.9 is almost 99% developed using PB905 I assume (but not tested) PB905 will work under Windows 8.

I will make some tests during the week-end and let you know.

John Spikowski
30-09-2011, 21:01
And you do that almost every time there is "PowerBasic" inside a post.


Jose Roca is more married to PB then you and he doesn't hide posts when a confrontation thread with Zale exists on his forum. (see Brice's series of posts)

If your forum users complain about my post then I would fully understand you deleting posts I may create. You have all my respect as a developer but protecting PB when Zale is able to defend his own product is being a bit too loyal. (turning into a Theo) . I have never seen Zale come to thinBasic's defense on any forum.

ErosOlmi
30-09-2011, 21:34
There is no reason to defend any one and I'm not defending any one because no one needs my defense.

As I said many times to you and others, I'm just trying to keep this place a nice place for technology passionate people.
Your insults to PowerBasic do not add anything to the discussion other than offending my patience.

I repeat: remain technical with your critics and no one will moderate you.

Did I moderate danbaron for his critics to PB Ide? No
Did I ban someone because some critics to me or to others? No

Did I ban or moderate someone insulting others? Yes.
Will I continue to do that? Yes

Josť Roca
30-09-2011, 21:54
"All COM based programes will not work on future Windows 8."


Do you believe all the crap posted in the web?

All COM based programs or only those compiled with PowerBASIC? If all, even .NET will disappear, because the .NET runtime is a low-level COM server, something that many .NET users apparently don't know.

Another poster says:



I change my mind when i see that Power Basic (i really dont know where is power in this language) can NOT create Window frame, he only can create Dialog frame - what a crap..."


How can it be true if all my programs use SDK windows and not the Windows Dialog Engine?

Please, don't pay attention to people that don't know what they are talking about.

ErosOlmi
02-10-2011, 11:51
Here it is PB 1002 working as stable as usual under Windows 8 Developer Preview 32 bit

In the picture:

PB IDE
a compiled (under Windows 8 ) application using Power Collection
PB COM Browser
PB COM library (Microsoft ActiveX Data Objects 6.1 Library) exploded

zak
02-10-2011, 13:33
thanks Eros, i have noticed at the upper left:" local disk c:" , is it virtual or you have installed win8 on a physical c: .
thanks

ErosOlmi
02-10-2011, 14:59
It is a Windows 8 Virtual Machine hosted in VMWare Workstation 8 running on a Windows 7 64 bit

ErosOlmi
02-10-2011, 15:17
Windows 8 touch interface.
thinAir was added automatically by thinBasic installation setup

John Spikowski
02-10-2011, 18:54
I bet most of what is being done in Win8 could be done with a custom theme in XP. :)

Petr Schreiber
02-10-2011, 19:32
Windows 8 touch interface.
thinAir was added automatically by thinBasic installation setup

Eros,

what happens when I click ThinAIR "tile" in this view. Does it switch to "normal" Windows desktop and launch thinAir, or does it launch thinAIR maximized over the tiles?


Petr

ErosOlmi
02-10-2011, 20:32
Switch to normal desktop an execute the application.