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    Anyone know if this article on Earth being threatened is bogus?

    FIRST the bad news - scientists are now 99 per cent certain mass extinction events on Earth are as regular as clockwork.

    The good news? There's still 16 million years to go until the next one.

    That's the finding from scientists from the University of Kansas and the Smithsonian Institute in the US, where they've mapped out all Earth's extinction events from the past 600 million years.

    According to what they've seen, life on Earth is wiped out every 27 million years.

    It's not going to be global warming that finishes us all off, either.

    Unfortunately for our planet, it passes through a shower of comets every 27 million years, and it very rarely escapes unscathed.

    Of the last 20 times we made a galactic run for our lives through the comet shower, Earth only escaped with most of its biological organisms intact six times.

    The most widely publicised one was 65 million years ago, when a 15km wide asteroid hit the Earth in Mexico with the force of a billion atomic bombs and wiped out the dinosaurs.

    There's also more bad news - the extinction scenario rate is not strictly accurate.

    Sometimes the asteroids ambush all life on Earth up to 10 million years earlier than they should.

    The good news is all on the side of our Sun's dark twin Nemesis, which until now received an unfairly large proportion of bad press, being considered responsible for the bombardment.

    The theory used to be that Nemesis passed through a huge - even by universal standards - belt of dust and ice called the Oort cloud every 27 million years, sending the comets our way.

    Now scientists say that because the extinction scenarios happen so regularly, Nemesis couldn't be responsible, as its orbit would have changed over such a long time.

    Which isn't to say the Sun's evil twin - which lies about one light year away from it - is not still spraying Oort cloud comets all over our galaxy, just that they're hitting other planets these days.

    Which still leaves the question as to why we've drawn the short straw and what we're going to do about it.

    The last one occurred 11 million years ago, so at least Doomsday cult members can now set their clocks for the year 16,002,010, rather than the fashionably Hollywood mark of 2012.

    Which gives us all a little breathing space - if you don't believe in global warming.

    Source: http://www.news.com.au/technology/li...-1225891466185

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    Re: Anyone know if this article on Earth being threatened is bogus?

    It is something I heard on a regular basis on Discovery Channel and National Geographic channel.
    Anyhow, because there is nothing I can do to avoid those catastrophic events, I live the "here and now" and I'm always happy
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    Re: Anyone know if this article on Earth being threatened is bogus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eros Olmi
    It is something I heard on a regular basis on Discovery Channel and National Geographic channel.
    Anyhow, because there is nothing I can do to avoid those catastrophic events, I live the "here and now" and I'm always happy
    Well I don't have Discovery Channel or National Geographic but I thought the Nemesis Star sounded like something out of Star Trek - and so wondered whether the whole thing was a joke.

    I'm not personally worried about dying as a result of a comet strike. Most people die in their beds, and I suspect, otherthings being equal, my bed will get me!

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    Re: Anyone know if this article on Earth being threatened is bogus?

    I just want to know the truth before I go. We are all being manipulated in one way or another all over the world and living almost like in the Matrix. That is why I enjoy youtube and searching for things you don't hear or see anywhere else, like listening to coast to coast too.

    Many things do seem to be converging towards 2012, some say a great new beginning, others say 30 or 40 years of bad sun activity leading scorching surface temperatures and solar radiation.

    So far one good thing. I had heard 3 significant dates of events to happen and none of them has happened luckily. However the frequency of volcanic activity and increasing earthquake magnitudes over more sustained periods is coming true as predicted sometime back in the 90's. Also the sun did have a very unusual long period of non activity and is coming out of that. Interesting times for sure.
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    Watch out for the YellowStone super-volcano. The last major eruption was 640,000 years ago, (a while before the emergence of Homo Sapiens). It was very disruptive, and there is still a lot of activity deep under the rocks.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera

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    Re: Anyone know if this article on Earth being threatened is bogus?

    Charles, that is one of the big things being swept and kept under the carpet here It was on coast to coast a few months back, maybe several months back when they were talking about how much activity there was. I haven't heard much since.

    Found this on coast to coast from that show.
    Recently, hundreds of small earthquakes have struck Yellowstone National Park, prompting fears that a disastrous volcanic eruption might happen there. Scientists are continuing to monitor the earthquake swarms, the largest Yellowstone's had in the last 20 years.

    First hour guest, researcher Mitch Battros offered analysis of the quake situation. While the Yellowstone caldera is due for an eruption, the current signs, such as the quakes being under 4.0, suggest that volcanic activity there is not imminent, he said. We'd have weeks of notice before it blows, he added. Battros also noted that a Mayan elder has named a volcanic eruption at Yellowstone as part of their prophecy.
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    Re: Anyone know if this article on Earth being threatened is bogus?

    Quote Originally Posted by kent sarikaya
    Found this on coast to coast from that show...
    Oh, come on now. You're obviously an intelligent man. Why in the world would you even consider giving that nonsense the time of day? I mean seriously, that's the same show that was having Nancy Leider and her legion of nutballs talking about how everything was going to come to an end in 2003. Aliens from Zeta Reticuli warned her that "Planet X" was going to swing by and cause a "poleshift" that would result in mass extinction. Alien abductions, "new world order" paranoia and Bigfoot sightings. Really? Seriously?

    Shows like that which promote bizzare conspiracy theories, alien abductions and junk science just continues the downward spiral of anti-intellectual idiocy that seems to be growing in a culture of vapid, unthinking people who believe whatever sort of nonsense they hear, read or see without having the ability (or even making the effort) to validate it.

    It's junk food for the mind. Just say no.

    Edit: Coming back to what I wrote this morning, I'll admit it seems a bit strident. It just really bothers me when you have the "fringe media" put nonsense out there, and then people really believe it's true. The first time I ever heard of it was in relationship to the whole Leider/Planet X/Poleshift thing I had read on a science blog, and it just blew my mind away that there were people actually building bunkers and hoarding food because they really thought the end of the world was coming in 2003. People can think of this stuff as harmless amusement, but it really can have a serious, negative effect when it drowns out real, valid information and science. So, I apologize if you (or anyone else) feels that I was attacking them personally; I just feel very strongly that these types of radio and TV programs are detrimental on a number of different levels.

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    Re: Anyone know if this article on Earth being threatened is bogus?

    I love coast to coast because they are open to talk about anything. The host treats everyone with respect. No one judges this should air or this shouldn't. Most guests usually have a book out about a subject and talk about what they researched and what conclusions they have drawn if any. It is up to the listener to decide what to listen to or turn off. What to do their own research on or ignore. I think it is the best form of press and most fair. My opinion of course.
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    Re: Anyone know if this article on Earth being threatened is bogus?

    [font=courier new][size=8pt](These are only my subjective opinions.)

    I've had a lot of problems with Coast to Coast. I used to listen to it a lot, while practicing pool at night. Now, I don't listen so much. So, some of my
    opinions may be dated.

    Here is the website for the show, so we agree about what we are discussing.

    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

    For a while, Art Bell kept retiring and un-retiring, if I remember correctly.

    Then, his wife died, and he talked about how he almost didn't survive. But, I think, about a year after her death, he recovered enough to marry someone
    approximately 40 years younger than himself.

    Ian Punnett, to me, is a strange guy.

    I think I understand how the show works. The basic idea of it is to make money. In order to do that, you cannot cross-examine each guest who appears. You have
    to act like you think each guest is credible. That way, you get a continuous supply of guests, many who are regulars. So, in a sense, I view George Noory, as
    running a scam.

    As far as I know, George continues to indicate that he thinks 2012 will be a very special year. And, his reasoning is that the year corresponds to the end
    of the Mayan calendar. If he actually believes it, then I think he is dumb (could the calendar continue forever?). And, if he doesn't believe it, but says he
    does anyway, then, I think he is a fraud. Actually, if I am honest, I think he is a combination of the two. Remember his book, "Worker in the Light"?

    Here is the official "George Noory Sucks" thread.

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age807580/pg52

    George sometimes does get credible scientists to appear. But, my observation is that they come on the show, when they are selling a book.

    George's science advisor, Richard C. Hoagland ("The Face on Mars"), is in my view, a fraud, and worse, I'm not sure if he fully realizes it. Strangely, to
    me, he seems to be in deep passionate love, with Mars.

    Nancy Leider was one of the worst guests. Wasn't she channeling the aliens? George would alternately talk to her and then an alien talking through her. When
    Planet X did not appear when she said it would, George banned her from the show for a while.

    The guy I really couldn't stand, and who seemed to me like a total human freak, was Major Ed Dames, the remote viewer. He and his "team" were always remote
    viewing something. He was the one who said there would be a "kill shot", solar flare, that would destroy the Earth. The last I remember, he said he was
    moving to Ukraine to marry a woman there. He and his "team" also remote viewed the location where Steve Fossett's plane would be found, he said within one mile.
    He was going to search the area himself. I think the plane was actually found approximately 50 miles from where he said it would be.

    If I recall correctly, psychic Sylvia Brown was temporarily banned from the show, after she came on and said that Steve Fossett (or someone famous), was
    still alive. Unfortunately, almost immediately after that, the person was found, dead.

    Another guy George has on the show as a scientific authority, is James McCanny. I Googled him once. He has out a book claiming to, from what I can
    determine, provide a formula for generating the sequence of prime numbers. However, long ago mathematicians proved that such a formula is impossible.

    Another crazy guest that comes on regularly, is Steve Quayle. He talks about all kinds of cuckoo stuff.

    Another (in my opinion) really crazy guy, is Howard Bloom. I bet that psychiatrists would have a great time studying him.

    One of the absolute stupidest guests is, "The Numbers Lady", Glynis McCants. My tolerance for listening to her and George converse, is down to about five
    seconds.

    Other topics in which the first time for me, was too much, include, "Shadow People", "Bigfoot", "Chupacabra", and "The Hollow Earth".

    A problem that I have with both Art and George, is that, often they talk about science, but neither one seems to know anything about it, or to ever
    attempt to learn anything. I admit, that in George's case, learning something about it might be impossible.

    My votes for the show's biggest frauds (besides George): Richard Hoagland, Nancy Leider, Ed Dames.

    Not every guest or topic on the show is bad. I only remember the bad ones. Linda Moulton Howe is alright. She likes to talk about crop circles. I find her to be
    somewhat soothing. You can visit her website at, http://www.earthfiles.com/, if you want to (not, if you don't). Her name reminds me of the renowned law firm,
    "Dewey Cheatem and Howe".

    Now, after saying all of these bad things, I do admit to still listening to it. Probably, even with so many faults, it is better than most television. (No one
    is productive during every waking minute. Sometimes people waste time, which they call relaxing. And, you don't always have a book to read. And, if you are
    alone in the house, sometimes you like to hear human voices, even dumb ones. And, like in this thread, sometimes it's fun to talk about possibly crazy things,
    for fun (<-- yes, it's redundant).)

    (Like Kent said, the show does speak about subjects which, the mainstream media attempt to hide. Probably for that reason alone, it is worth listening to. Also, that reason alone redeems my opinion of George Noory. He could choose a safer "road", and just take home the money, without upsetting powerful people - but, at least so far, he doesn't. I think that most people in his position, would be afraid to have open discussions about some of the topics that are discussed on the show. It is up to the listener to decide for himself what he believes and disbelieves. In my opinion, a person can be exposed to the mainstream media all day, everyday, and learn very little that those in power don't want him to know. I prefer being exposed to both real truth and real nonsense, and having to distinguish between them myself, rather than being exposed to only half truths, quarter truths, and lies.)

    :P
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    Re: Anyone know if this article on Earth being threatened is bogus?

    When you were talking about coast to coast all I thought was whats a tv program doing broadcasting its audio in the US?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_t...K_TV_series%29

    Charles I remember watching the BBC show "Supervolcano:The truth about Yellowstone" very interesting and also tells us we are not in control.

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